On 15 Dec, 18:48, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:59:00 +0000, David Cantrell

wrote:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 07:58:25PM +0000, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:27:25 +0000, David Cantrell
wrote:
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 08:13:23AM +0000, asdf wrote:
What about all the tourists? It's hard for many of them to understand
Oyster.
OEPs won't exactly help here.
Let's be honest though - how many tourists are going to hold a period
travelcard and then wish to travel beyond its zonal availability?

Uh, any of them who are visiting for a week, spend most of the time
doing the usual tourist things in zone 1, but on a couple of days go a
bit further out to visit, eg, Kew Gardens or Hampton Court.

Are these places always on the tourist trail for people who stay a week?

For a tiresome and complicated penny-pinching transport-geek version of
value, perhaps. *When people ask *me* what ticket they should get, I
recommend a travelcard, because it's simple and it Just Works. *If it
happens to cost a coupla quid more than the more complicated but cheaper
combination of tickets which qould require an in-depth knowledge of the
minutiae of fares, then I very much doubt that any of the people who've
asked me would care.

I've advised five people *this month alone* that when they visit London
for a week, they should get a zone 1 and 2 travelcard, and buy an
extension ticket if travelling outside their zones.

Well that proves it then doesn't it? *I'm clearly completely wrong and
have nothing valid to add. You win.

--
Paul C

But a travelcard is clearly a better deal if they want to travel
before 0930, and for seven days, and will do enough travel every day
that they'd reach their cap regardless of extensions.

PAYG is a better deal if they'll spend some whole days in their hotel
or make just one return journey on some days.

It's not all or nothing. I don't understand why argue about it.