On Jan 15, 7:57*am, asdf wrote:

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:32:09 -0800 (PST), Mizter T wrote:
(This was of course back in the pre-LO dark ages when it wasn't valid
on the DC line at Kilburn High Road or South Hampstead, not north of
H&W - the fact that TfL manage to negotiate PAYG being valid north of
Queen's Park was arguably in itself a minor miracle, given that
traditionally mainline fares - i.e. BR/NR - applied on this stretch of
the Bakerloo line.)

At the time PAYG was introduced, Queens Park - Kenton was
interavailable; it was only Kenton - H&W that was NR fares only.

Indeed - my comments were just harking back to earlier times, though I
grant you they could be seen as misleading.

So, if we're doing clarity, I should point out that whilst Tube/NR
paper tickets were indeed interavailable from Kenton to points south
(but not from H&W), when PAYG was introduced TfL managed to negotiate
to make it valid from H&W as well, including on the (slow *and* fast)
NR services towards Euston - which was a minor achievement in itself.
(And just to be ultra clear, the arrangement whereby NR fares applied
for paper ticketing between Kenton and H&W nonetheless persisted for
some years afterwards - it was only more recently that this
inconsistency was done away with, and interavailability of paper
tickets from H&W was ushered in).