On Mar 5, 4:38*pm, Clive Page wrote:
The other day I needed to reach the Old Street area and noticed on the
London Central Bus map leaflet the 812, which might have been useful.

Route 812 is jointly funded by Hackney and Islington councils, and is
operated by CT Plus (aka Hackney Community Transport) - see:
http://www.hctgroup.org/index.php?sectionid=90

---quote---
Route 812 in East London

In 2007 we continued our long tradition of making public transport
available to all by launching two new special bus routes (812 and 816
in Islington and Hackney). The 816 route ran until 2 May 2008
whereupon it was discontinued due to a lack of funding. The 812
service continues to run and is endorsed by Hackney and Islington
Borough Councils. It is operated on a London Service Permit from
Transport for London.

The 812 service has full disabled access and covers areas of the
boroughs which are not well served by existing public transport.
---/quote---

Also see the above webpage for a route map and timetable.


But the leaflet says about the 812:
"Valid Freedom Passes can be used on this service (Bus Passes,
Travelcards, Oystercards and Saver Tickets are not accepted)."

By Bus Passes I assume it means the National Bus Pass for the over-60s
and handicapped. *I thought that all scheduled short-distance services
were required to accept these, whatever the operator? * If this service
accepts the TfL Freedom Pass but not these (which are the equivalent
issued outside London), then it's a real curiosity.

You assume wrong - that's simply referring to a normal *London* Bus
Pass, or in full TfL jargon a "Bus & Tram Pass".

The text you quote above is the standard spiel that appears on any TfL
produced timetables for bus or coach services that aren't part of the
London bus network - e.g. Green Line or Oxford Tube timetables. (The
deal appears to be that if timetables are to be displayed at stops in
London, that's fine, but TfL - as opposed to the operator - will
produce and display said timetables.)

Here we go - the PDF of the timetable (in TfL style) is on the HCT
website he
http://www.hctgroup.org/_uploaded/Fi...0timetable.pdf

On this version at least, it says:
---quote---
TfL Bus Passes, Travelcards, Oyster Cards and Saver Tickets are NOT
accepted on this service.
Cash fares may differ from those charged on other local bus services.
---/quote---

The ENCTS bus pass (aka English national bus pass) will be valid on
the 812 service - there's no choice in the matter, it has to be.