On Mar 8, 11:23*am, Stuart Johnson
wrote:
Hi

Living in Scotland now I only visit London two or three times a year,
and not since PAYG became valid on NR in January.

Could you knowledgeable folks in London advise me as to the following
scenarios please.

Firstly Wimbledon. I usually arrive at Wimbledon off the tram,
touching in/out on the LU platform for onward travel. Presumably the
same applies to the SWT platforms now.

I haven't yet been to Wimbledon since the new arrangements took effect
at the beginning of January, but yes, a passenger would need to touch-
in at Wimbledon before starting an NR journey if they've arrived on a
tram.

If they're finishing an NR journey at Wimbledon then you probably need
to touch-out to finish that journey before then touching-in again on
the Tramlink platform to cover your tram journey. I guess it's
possible that things have been configured so as to permit a single
touch on the Tramlink validator to both end the NR journey and start
the tram journey, but without having tried it (or been to Wimbledon
and seen whatever instruction notices are on display) then I couldn't
possibly say whether that's the case or not.


However, if I were to enter Wimbledon from the street, touch in at the
main gateline, would I then need to touch in again on the LU/SWT
platforms and, if not, would touching in matter? The LU reader was
yellow, is it perhaps pink now?

If you touch in at the main gateline, then no you do not need to touch-
in again if you're travelling on LU or NR - but it would not matter at
all if you did so anyway (and yes I've tested this). If you're
travelling on the tram then yes you do need to touch-in again on the
Tramlink platform - basically the gates assume that one is travelling
on NR or LU, so the extra validation is required to adjust the fare
paid down to that of a tram fare.


Second question relates to OSIs.

Say I arrive at Shepherds Bush NR and intend to travel on from
Shepherds Bush LU, I have 20 minutes to do it. If that timelimit
expires I assume the journey would finish at the NR station and any
new entry would start a new journey? [...]

Yes, if the time limit for an OSI expires, then it would mean that a
totally new journey was started. (I haven't double-checked that the
Shepherds Bush NR to Shepherds Bush LU OSI is indeed set at 20
minutes, but that seems more than enough time to cross the road!)

[...] Suppose, within the 20 mins
allowed, I change my mind and re-enter the NR station, would that
result in an unresolved *journey?

It shouldn't do, no - OSIs are basically configured between different
stations [1], so if you were to exit a set of gates and then re-enter
through the same set of gates, the original journey should be fully
resolved and closed, and then a totally new journey started.

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[1] Or more specifically different sets of gatelines - sometimes these
can be at the same station, but the only example I can think of off-
hand is at KXSP, where thhere is an OSI between the Circle/Met
gateline and the tube ticket hall (and I also now the northern ticket
hall - *I think*) - this is despite the fact that you can circulate
between the Circle/Met platforms and the other lines totally within
the paid-for area.