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Old May 21st 10, 05:08 PM posted to uk.railway,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.transport.london
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On May 21, 4:35*pm, MIG wrote:

On 21 May, 16:14, Mizter T wrote:

On May 21, 3:09*pm, Neil Williams
wrote:


On Fri, 21 May 2010 06:11:00 -0700 (PDT), Mizter T


wrote:
You mean it would result in normal levels of crowding, like those
commuters everywhere else deal with?


Just because there is a problem elsewhere doesn't mean it should
spread in aid of someone's pet project that few or no passengers
actually want.


I wasn't trying to propose the diversion of the DC line service - just
pointing out that you've got it sweet!


TBH in the past I did find the idea of diverting the DC line along the
Primrose Hill link to Camden Rd (and the NLL beyond to the east)
attractive - indeed, I still find the idea of there being a service of
some sort between Willesden Jn or Queen's Park and Camden Road most
attractive (with a re-opened station at Primrose Hill too) - but I am
rather more concious of the need/ demand for the DC line into Euston
these days.


However with regards to the passenger demand, Paul C said that there
was apparently a lot of positive feedback from passenger surveys
conducted during the temporary diversion of the DC line away from
Euston and onto the NLL via the Primrose Hill link - this was between
September and mid-November 2008.


The LM commuter services show what can be done with the will and a few
quid. *Don't let's wreck it.


If there ever was to be a diversion of the DC line service, then it
could be mitigated by what Andy suggested - a Watford to Euston
shuttle service. Not sure how do-able it would be to stop it at
Queen's Park, but that would make such a thing x times more useful.


I'm sure we've been assured that it's impossible to stop LM trains at
Queens Park without ending the world (and it would need a new
crossover to serve Kilburn High Road and South Hampstead unless those
were abandoned, and an AC/DC changeover or new wiring).


They wouldn't be abandoned under such a diversion, they would just
serve the combined DC line - NLL service.

As you say, we've been told fairly authoritatively that stopping LM
services at Queen's Park is a no no - the explanation is simply that
it'd mess up the timetabling, what with all the fast trains that
currently use the slow lines (IYSWIM!).


I think people would like the service from Camden Road in addition to
the service from Euston, not as a diversion.


Agreed. The positive feedback I mentioned upthread during that 2008
diversion was presumably from those who found it handy - I assume that
those who found it a PITA also said so! (The bods I know up Queen's
Park way don't use the train for commuting.)


Would there be much harm in turning round a couple more Bakerloons at
Queens Park to allow a service via Primrose Hill to Watford? *Can't
see any competition for capacity.


Dunno how do-able this is, but from a passenger's POV the cross-
platform interchange at Queen's Park that this might necessitate
couldn't really be any easier.