Graeme wrote:
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Chris Tolley (ukonline really) wrote:
Graeme wrote:
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Chris Tolley (ukonline really) wrote:
Graeme wrote:
Further the system is manifestly weighted against the private
motorist as against other road users. A speed camera on a 70mph
dual carriageway will detect a motorist exceding the speed limit
by 8mph but will not detect a white van exceding the speed limit
by 15mph or an HGV exceding the speed limit by 20mph. (assuming
the camera is set for the 10% allowed error of the speedometers)
That's undeniable. It's not that much different from the general
law enforcement case, though, is it. Some people are caught. Others
go unpunished.
It is a lot different in that the chance of getting caught is
weighted in favour(?) of one group of potential offenders.
One could argue the other way too, in that big vehicles have
tachographs, while small ones don't. I was once aboard a coach on the
A12 that was flagged down by a police officer who then boarded it,
looked at the recording, and issued a ticket accordingly.
Techographs can be tampered with and if you are totally reliant on
cameras to enforce speed limits there won't be any police officers around
to flag down errant HGVs/PSVs. Which is exactly what has been happening.
And white van man gets away with it both ways.
Any particular reason for making the same point after it has already been
acknowledged?
You were the one that introduced tachographs into the discussion. I was
merely answering that point.
Indeed. It took you five words. I was talking about the sixth and
subsequent.
It sounds like you are trying to convince me that just because a system
can't do everything, it shouldn't do anything.
I fail to see how you arrive at that conclusion.
I can't see any other reason that you would repeat the point about HGVs
PSVs and Mr W Van. That's why I asked why you repeated yourself when the
points had already been acknowledged.
Despite your earlier protestations you don't seem to be understanding
the point I have been making.
All you seem to have said is that speed cameras don't make roads safer
and they don't catch everyone who is speeding. I have acknowledged the
first point by saying they aren't capable of it and the second by saying
that's life. If you have indicated that you believe that despite these
shortcomings speed cameras do have a role in defending speed limits,
then yes, I have not understood.
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