On 23 Oct, 22:18, "Jim Hawkins" wrote:
Stephen Furley wrote:
On 23 Oct, 10:12, "Jim Hawkins" wrote:

How would you stop the trains becoming doss houses ?
How would you stop gangs of yobs from boarding for
a variety of illegal/antisocial purposes?

Why would you want to stop somebody doing something just because it's
illegal? Being illegal doesn't make something bad, or good.

Depends what it is, does it not.
Most people wouldn't want to be robbed, for example. *A gang of yobs might
well be able to rob a coach full of pax, pull the cord and jump off before
the fuzz got anywhere near.

But what does that have to do with whether the railway is free to use
or not. If they were the sort of people who were planning to rob a
coach full of passengers are you seriously suggesting that they'd be
put off doing so by the thought of getting on the train without a
ticket? Even if they were, if they were about to rob people of
hundreds or thousands of pounds they could pay a couple of pounds for
a single to the next station.

I think we both agree that robbing people is wrong, but is it wrong
because it does harm to people, or is it wrong because it is illegal?

As for anti-social activities, people do these things today; charging
for the use of the railways doesn't stop them from doing so.

It presents them with novel opportunities that they might not be able
to resist.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying here.