On Dec 29, 4:47*pm, "antsuxx" wrote:
My thoughts to, i have driven subs *and epb,s in the 70,s and 80,s in the
midst of the severe weather experienced then , and quite rightly so , the
subs and epb,s ploughed on , even the later veps, and ceps managed, yes
spectacular pyrotechnics indeed,something you dont see today, im sure to the
problem partly to do with fragile shoe gear, something not difficult to
diagnose, well unless you dnt have any railway experience that is!!

There is much less exterior structure on the bogies of the newer
fleets. This may mean that there is nowhere to attach heavier shoe
gear. IMHO this whole matter needs a rethink.