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Old March 30th 11, 01:20 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Japanese pushers to be employed at Kensington Olympia ...


"CJB" wrote in message
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Due to severe over-crowding on the Overground - the trains stupidly
restricted to mere 4-car units - Japanese pushers are soon to be
employed to push and squeeze commuters into these cattle trucks during
the rush-hour.

As witnessed everyday - but thank fully not experienced - at
Kensington Olympia (and numerous other stations on TfL's new
Overground routes) - at rush-hour - these trains largely devoid of
seating - are so grossly over-crowded as to be well beyond safe
capacity - thereby necessitating specially recruited Japanese platform
staff to push every last commuter through the doors into the grossly
over-crowded carriages.

They are due to begin work on Friday with the morning rush-hour.

The result of this over-crowding is a solid mass of humanity inside
the open plan carriages with commensurate momentum. Thus if a packed
train ever derailed or suddenly stopped, this tightly packed mass
would shoot forwards through the fully open interior to fatally squash
hundreds of hapless commuters at the leading end.

The fact that these conditions exist are due to the apparent callous
disregard that Transport for London has for its customers in not
putting into service 8-car units and extra trains during the rush-
hour.

It is not a matter of if but when there is a train crash / smash with
massive loss of life on these brand new cattle trains.


I see that you posted this separately on uk.railway, where for some daft
reason I actually decided to respond to you - given that I stupidly made the
effort, I'll copy it in below:

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You really are the personification of Captain Miseryguts, CJB - always look
on the bleak side of life, eh?

As ever you've got several things wrong or skewed - that is, if the above
words are is even yours (some tell tale signs suggest it may have just been
copy & pasted). First off you haven't cited any source for this 'pushers'
story - a quick search didn't reveal anything obvious, but I may have missed
it - FWIW, I've just listened to the 1pm BBC London radio news bulletin
which had no mention of this at all.

Secondly, there *are* already extra peak time London Overground trains on
the West London Line. Also, from May onwards, the regular service is
increasing from half-hourly to every 15 mins.

Thirdly, the new class 378 trains are far far more suitable than the old
class 313 trains in terms of dealing with large passenger numbers.

Fourthly, the idea that these trains can just be run as 8-car units shows an
abject level of ignorance as to the operating conditions on the
WLL -extending the platforms at Willesden Junction to cater for 8-car trains
would be a massive and very expensive undertaking, involving building over
the West Coast main line tracks, and the rest of the North London Line
cannot cater for trains of such length either.

Fifthly, the improvements on this line and on the rest of the London
Overground network are basically more or less all down to TfL. It's hard to
see any of this happening under the custodianship of the former operator,
Silverlink Metro.

As ever, I don't expect a reply addressing any of these points.