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Old May 7th 11, 09:14 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Here We Go Again - New Tube Strike Dates Revealed

The fill tribunal report is available on the RMT website:
http://www.rmtlondoncalling.org.uk/node/2182

important - click on the attachment at the bottom of the web page to get
the full report. What's listed on the web page is what the RMT have
cherry-picked for their own benefit from the main report.


Details of the incident that started the discipline procedures off is are
given on page 9 paragraph 34 "Incident on 9th August 2010"

Basically, the driver deliberately ran the train with a safety device (the
tripcock) cut out without a second person in the cab. The tripcock is
part of the safety system that stops the train if it goes past a red
signal. A driver must ALWAYS have a second person in the cab if the
Tripcock is defective. If the defect occurs between stations, then (as
there are no Guards these days) the train is driven to the next station at
extreme caution speed where a second person then gets in the cab. A
second person MUST be in the cab, even if it means the train sits in the
platform until somebody is sent to the station. The driver cannot be told
by anybody, including the Controller, to do anything different and should
ignore any instructions to do so (if given). All drivers know this.

What the driver did was a serious breach of rules, although I can't say
whether the driver should be dismissed for that or not. The RMT, as
always, have conveniently played down this aspect of the case.

However, it would appear that LU did themselves no favours in the way that
they conducted their disciplinary procedures and acted unfairly in what
they did and it would seem that the driver was dismissed by LU for the
wrong reasons (if he should have been dismissed at all).

Roger





*From:* "Zen83237"
*Date:* Fri, 6 May 2011 23:16:39 +0100

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
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In message


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at
07:11:27 on Wed, 4 May 2011, George

remarked:
Does anybody know what these two drivers have been sacked for?

Without
knowing the full story it is difficult to pass judgement.


The BBC story linked to earlier says:

Mr Thomas was dismissed over "abusive behaviour" towards
his
colleagues and Mr Lynch was sacked because he "over-rode
his
train's safety systems and drove the train with complete
disregard for established procedures".
--
Roland Perry


Shouldn't disregard for safety systems be a criminal matter. If it
isn't then it should be.
Kevin