In message , at 16:11:20 on
Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Bruce remarked:

Have you actually been there and experienced it at first hand (I did).

It really can't have been *that* attractive if you came back.

I was there for a week staying with friends. Plenty of time to find out
what it's all about from an immigrant's point of view. I then spent a
week at a conference with colleagues, many of whom live there, so I'd
heard a lot about it before.
--
Roland Perry