On Sep 29, 1:25*pm, Roland Perry wrote:

An "Any Permitted" one would, versus a "Not London". The former is about
2 more expensive.

Excellent. If that is right, then the person in the ticket was quite
wrong and needlessly rude to me (not that being rude is ever needful
of course).

I apologise for lack of data. I am likely to do this journey
occasionally. I would like to be able to catch the first train back at
Shelford and so it would be useful to be able to go either via
Cambridge or via Tottenham Hale (and then catch the underground -
which I can pay for with my Oyster). Hence the desire for an option.

All journeys will be single day. This one was off-peak, but that won't
always be true.

Am I right in understanding that, in your view, an "Any Permitted"
ticket from Finsbury Park to Shelford would permit me to:

(1) board a train at FP to Cambridge
(2) change onto a Liverpool St bound train at Cambridge and then
alight at Shelford
(3) leave the network at Shelford, spend time there and then...
(4) either reverse the above route or...
(5) board a train to Liverpool Street from Shelford and then alight at
Tottenham Hale leaving there (the underground I can then handle).

I think that's what you are saying.


In fact, now I look closer, you don't need to do the BoJ trick, because
a FP-Shelford ticket is the same price as a FP-Cambridge one (ie the
final leg south is free). It also means that if you buy the Shelford
ticket it's possible to return via Cambridge as well as arrive that way.

So the rail-only ticket needed is a FP-Shelford Any Permitted, but it's
entirely possible others are cheaper, partly because of throwing away
the Tottenham Hale onwards entitlement.

And we still don't know if this is a day trip or not, or Off-peak or not
(either of which might affect the result). Although U23* tickets are
only available as Day tickets, so that might be a clue.


My apologies. Today was spent doing the journey and associated
activity. For simplicity I did it entirely via Tottenham Hale so as to
avoid arguments.

opFrom: U23* LONDN
opTo: Shelford Cambs
opRoute: NOT LONDON
op
opI've now been told this is wrong as it won't allow me to travel from
opFinsbury Park to Shelford via Cambridge.

I think the ticket is valid via Cambridge, because like the Finsbury
Park one it's the same price to either Cambridge or Shelford.

Ah, that makes sense. So, its also valid.


ps the Avantix code for U23* London is 0797.
pps I'm assuming that the U23* ticket allows use of the Underground to
Tottenham Hale, not sure where to look that one up though.

Underground is less worrying.

Francis