On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:40:07 -0000
"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote:
Metro trains tend to be faster and/or have a turnover such that it's easier
for the longer distance traveller to get a seat for at least some of the
journey.

When I communted by tube I usually ended up standing for 30-40 mins.

crowded vestibule of the bendy. Even when standing on a double decker the
passenger flow is such that in most areas you don't get the crushed from all
sides that you do on bedies.

All I ever see on a crowded double decker when it reaches a stop is
"excuse me" , "can I get past" , "excuse me". People falling down the
stairs, people having to get off so others can get off then fight their
way back on again. The double decker is completely unsuited to frequent
stopping routes as used in cities and its about time this country got over
its nostalgic love affair with this **** poor design of vehicle and woke up
to the reality of bus travel.

Irrelevant. Thats an issue with inspection , it has nothing to do with the
bus.

On the contrary it was one of the main reasons the buses failed to catch
people's affections. The limited number of inspections and, even more so,

So are you seriously suggesting that the people travelling on bendies didn't
like them because others fare dodged? And when did bus passengers get polled
about which bus they prefered in the first place?

doubledeckers that ran in parrallel for part of the route, and the high
number of undesirable incidents on it.

Such as? I never saw youths hanging around at the back of bendies causing
trouble as I have done many MANY times on the top deck of a double decker.

can't be certain you won't run into a check at either end or onboard. But
the critical factor is less the level of open accessibility of the system
itself than whether there are perceived problems consequential to that level
of open accessibility.

Perception has nothing to do with it when you actually use a system. Its how
well it gets you from A to B that matters and the bendies did that perfectly.
In fact they were probably one of the few good ideas Livingstone ever had.

B2003