d wrote:

crowded vestibule of the bendy. Even when standing on a double decker the
passenger flow is such that in most areas you don't get the crushed from
all
sides that you do on bedies.

All I ever see on a crowded double decker when it reaches a stop is
"excuse me" , "can I get past" , "excuse me". People falling down the
stairs, people having to get off so others can get off then fight their
way back on again.

With the exception of the stairs I saw all that to a much greater extent on
the bendies.

The double decker is completely unsuited to frequent
stopping routes as used in cities and its about time this country got over
its nostalgic love affair with this **** poor design of vehicle and woke
up
to the reality of bus travel.

You can dismiss people who prefer double deckers as nostalgic all you like
but it is grossly inaccurate. They prefer the double deckers because they
prefer its features and advantages over the bendies.

Irrelevant. Thats an issue with inspection , it has nothing to do with
the
bus.

On the contrary it was one of the main reasons the buses failed to catch
people's affections. The limited number of inspections and, even more so,

So are you seriously suggesting that the people travelling on bendies
didn't
like them because others fare dodged?

Well nobody likes the idea of others getting a free ride at their own
expense but the substantial issue was people believed the free bus was
responsible for other problems on them, particularly the ram pack crowding
and some of the incidents.

And when did bus passengers get polled
about which bus they prefered in the first place?

Well the nearest I'm aware of was 1/5/08:

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Okay that was about than bendy buses but it is the key poll point.

doubledeckers that ran in parrallel for part of the route, and the high
number of undesirable incidents on it.

Such as? I never saw youths hanging around at the back of bendies causing
trouble as I have done many MANY times on the top deck of a double decker.

You clearly were not looking at the back of the same bendies that I was
looking at.

can't be certain you won't run into a check at either end or onboard. But
the critical factor is less the level of open accessibility of the system
itself than whether there are perceived problems consequential to that
level
of open accessibility.

Perception has nothing to do with it when you actually use a system. Its
how
well it gets you from A to B that matters and the bendies did that
perfectly.

Perception has a lot to do with it when the buses become a political potato.
It also plays a real part in influencing users and their concerns.