On Feb 7, 12:33*pm, ian batten wrote:

Well, only up to a point. *PAYG Oyster caps make this less of a
problem than it otherwise would be. *What you're proposing is
essentially a "transfer" system in which once you step onto the
transport system, you pay only one fare until you exit the system or
for the next hour or whatever; you could do that, but unless you're
assuming that you reduce the overall revenue by some considerable
amount, it'll involve raising the single fare (because single now
encompasses what were previously multiple rides) which is politically
tricky.

It is fair that the fare be raised for that, yes. Perhaps it could
even go back to being zonal.

It also means that some realistic use-cases, such as "quickly nipping
over to X to buy a Y" become single journeys, unless you have some
amazingly complex rules on doubling back. *Unless you add Oyster tap-
out to bus journeys, how would you detect "bus from home to shop, buy
thing, bus back?"

So if a Zone 1 to Zone 3 fare is, say, £4, it should be £4 whether
it's a direct Tube, or a bus, a Tube and another bus, or whatever.

OK, so bus Zone 4 to Zone 1, buy a book in Foyles, bus back to Zone 4
is charged as what? *Show your working.

Absent bus touch-out, it's quite a hard one to determine. I'd
probably say it should be something along the lines of a bus-only
touch-in allows unlimited bus travel within an hour of the first touch-
in (or possibly a variable time based on the journey length of the bus
you touched in on). For paper tickets in other countries it's often
something like a bus ticket being a one-hour rover ticket.

Neil