On May 24, 10:59*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
"CJB" wrote in message

...

However despite PTTs being a legal requirement in the Penalty Fare
Zone(s) the Permits to Travel ticket issuing machines are frequently
switched off, or have been removed altogether.

But PTTs are obviously not a legal requirement any more, or TOCs would not
have removed them...


There are few, or no, PTT machines at the stations in Birmingham's
penalty fare area (certainly they've been removed at the stations I
use). It's quite common for the ticket machines to be set to card
only, too.

ian