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Old May 24th 12, 03:03 PM posted to uk.legal,uk.railway,uk.transport.london
Sam Wilson Sam Wilson is offline
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Default London National Rail - Permits To Travel discontinued but still required by Law !!!

In article
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ian batten wrote:

On May 24, 10:50*am, Jahbulon wrote:
CJB wrote in news:16c6322c-bb02-45fb-af28-
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So what is the legal situation whereas the requirement
is to purchase these PTT tickets, yet the machines that
issue them have been removed?


Having offered legal tender for a ticket, they would not be sufficiently
stupid to take the matter to court.


As I explain above, legal tender is irrelevant to this debate, as a
debt doesn't exist at the point of payment. There are other reasons
why this might not get to court, but that isn't one of them.


Though presumably a debt exists once the passenger travels on the train.
The debate then would be whether it should be treated as a simple debt
or an attempt to defraud punishable by a PF (which might be a fare or
might be a punitive fine levied under railway byelaws.)

Sam

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