On May 24, 3:46*pm, ian batten wrote:
On May 24, 2:39*pm, Jahbulon wrote:

ian batten wrote in news:4e48f480-cbaf-4680-
:

As I explain above, legal tender is irrelevant to this
debate, as a debt doesn't exist at the point of payment.

If you offer payment, they're not going to take you to court owing to their
own failures,

Perhaps. *As I said "There are other reasons why this might not get to
court, but that isn't one of them. "

However, the Penalty Fares system quite clearly says "If you are
unable to purchase a Permit to Travel, you should obtain a ticket from
the Conductor on the train or at the first opportunity.". * *Are there
any PF areas which also use one-man operation?

Yes, lots. Much of London suburbia is served by driver only trains in
PF areas. Such areas also often suffer from ticket machine vandalism
and irregular ticket office opening times.

Robin