"ian batten" wrote in message
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On May 24, 3:24 pm, bob wrote:

Yes, lots. Much of London suburbia is served by driver only trains in
PF areas. Such areas also often suffer from ticket machine vandalism
and irregular ticket office opening times.

A situation which is crying out for a handy, credit-card sized object
that you can purchase in many locations and use as a ticket.


Arguably the London suburbs extend outside the zones (and outside Greater
London).

Peter