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Old April 1st 04, 10:04 AM posted to uk.rec.cars.misc,uk.transport.london
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You want to live down the road from Chernobyl or Three Mile Island? One
mistake leaving vast tracts of land uninhabitable for tens of thousands
of years? If you could guarantee no mistakes then nuclear is arguably


You mean unlike the burning oilfields in Iraq that have efftively poisoned an
entire dsert area? UNlike all the oiltankers that spill their contents on
beaches etc? And a nuclear accident may leave a small area uninhabitable


A small area the size of Switzerland? Sure Oil is crap too. Coal is a bit
better in some ways, at least a spill is no big deal. Knock a windmill
down though and you have a fallen down windmill. That is where renewables
really score in my book. And to be truely nasty the poluted are is in
Iraq not here and is *desert*. NIMBY I know but the nukes are here.
Anyway that was enemy action, no doubt they would have tried to blow
up any handy nuclear power stations too. Thankfully there weren't any.

but the green house effect from burning fossil fuels is in danger of making
the whole damn planet uninhabitable! Which would you prefer? And as for 3


Neither. Use less is the only solution. Perfectly achievable.

mile island and chernobyl , they both used old fashioned designs that didn't
account for people cocking things up. If you want a better example look to
france which generates the majority of its power from nuclear. When did they
last have an accident?


Thank God. They are far closer. They only have to have one though and
probability says it *will* happen. I think the UK probability is currently
calculated at 1/1000years (maybe 10,000). 'A' level physics textbook -
can't remember the title. Given the consequences those
odds are nowhere near long enough for me. To be useful we need 10 times the
number of stations, which is 10 times the probability of a major accident.
Not good.

good. Factor humans into the equation and it won't get my vote, ever!
Humans are reliably incompetent! I really don't think people as a whole
get the possible *scale* of nuclear accidents.


You're right , they don't, because people like you make it out to be far
worse than it is and given I know someone who used to live not far from
Prypiat (the town near chernobyl) I think I have a rough idea of what I'm
talking about.


25,000 of the cleanup workers alone dead. How bad do you want?

And what if Al Quada (sp) drop an airliner on a nuclear plant? That would
make 9/11 look like a minor mishap.


WHy? You think a few tons of jet fuel will make the reactor go critical?


No. I know what makes a nuke tick. All it has to do is breach the
containment to cause a major incident. Factor in that the control systems
will not have long to shut down before they likely fail and who knows?
Bet your life? Al Quada are taking terrorism out of the box we know.
A lot of scenarios have not been evaluated.

HOw about you find out some facts before you spout the pig-ignorant green
party line?


I am not ignorant. I can't be bothered to justify that. You have
presented no facts of figures at all. Only opinion. Show me some
better *facts* and I will read them. Failing that I must ignore
you, that is science.

I am not in the green party but I am not a fool.

David

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