In message
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net, at 09:29:04 on Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Neil Williams
remarked:

The services are simply not late enough to be able to make an exit from
the events and get to the stations in time. eg The late basketball
sessions don't even start until 22.15 and are scheduled to run up till
midnight. A last train at 00:30 is hopeless for that.

True. But they are later than normal, no?

The last train for Derby (via Nottingham) is normally 23.15, or to
Leicester 00:15.

The latter has an Olympic train at 01:15, so it's really the people
north of Leicester who need to plan not to go to very late events (or
use Leicester as a P&R).

The WCML seems to have added some very late services, some of which may
well be worth considering keeping.

In particular when the wires go up Manc to Liv you could perhaps run a very
late one to both destinations. Years ago they used to do this with a
diesel. Suppose you could use a Voyager, and split at Manc for a portion
to Scotland.

I thought the early shutdown was so Network Rail could do maintenance,
rather than a lack of demand.
--
Roland Perry