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Old September 6th 12, 06:28 PM posted to uk.legal,uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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Default London National Rail - Permits To Travel discontinued but stillrequired by Law !!!

On 06/09/2012 15:07, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 06/09/2012 15:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:31:42 on Thu, 6 Sep
2012, Tim Roll-Pickering remarked:
At some point someone somewhere will have to split the hair on what
constitutes "full working order" if Joe Public can't work the controls
as well as the TOC technician who gives the machine a clean bill of
health.


Or as I once found, a machine that was probably working, but roped off
because it was in the middle of a large puddle caused by a leaking roof.

Maybe that qualifies as "no machine"?


At least you could take a photo on your cam-phone to show to any
grippers you may subsequently encounter.


Has anyone had a case of a machine being unusable but staff refusing to
agree? I've seen grippers phone a friend to check before agreeing it was
broken, and others accepting that if a whole load of random passengers
all say it is dead then it probably is.

Suggestions that a machine has mysteriously broken in the short gap
between respectable types and dodgy looking characters needing to buy
tickets seem to be treated with more suspicion.



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