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Old August 30th 13, 10:34 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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On 30/08/2013 00:05, Richard J. wrote:
wrote on 29 August 2013
21:47:23 ...
On 29/08/2013 19:19, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 11:46 +0100 (BST),
(Paul Cummins) wrote:

In article ,
(Paul Corfield) wrote:

*Unmanned* operation, a step beyond ATO as London operates, has a
significant safety / public confidence / industrial reations hurdle
to get over.

Even though it's already working on the DLR, including Underground
segments...

As others have pointed out I said "unmanned" rather than just ATO.

I have used "purpose built" unmanned Metro lines in various places and
have no great issue with them. However their design helps to deal with
a number of safety issues that will arise in London where some
alternative approach, possibly unique and untested, will have to be
employed. Setting aside the industrial relations issues it will be
these alternative approaches that will need to pass the test of public
opinion.


Ridership has skyrocketed on Paris Metro's Line 1 since its automation,
according to a BBC report.


Really? Seems unlikely. The trains are not significantly more frequent
than before, and the trains look exactly the same as the old ones,
except for not having a driver at the front.


There's no cab.

"Skyrocketed"? A few %
growth at most I would have thought.


I think that the word they used, actually, was soared.


Do you have a link to this dubious
report?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20989427

Line 1 in Paris is, however, the only example I'm aware of where a line
has been *converted* to unmanned operation. It does have double-track
tunnels virtually throughout, which eases evacuations.


Nuremberg U2?

Many more to come, I'm sure.