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Recliner[_2_] · December 14th 13, 01:42 PM posted to uk.transport.london

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:33:46 +0000 (UTC),
d wrote:

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:41:02 -0600
Recliner wrote:
That's an interesting point, but unfortunately is usually true. In most
technical fields, you're at your most productive from your mid 20s to late
30s; after that, someone else will be a sharper programmer, etc. I was

Rubbish. There's more to programming than just how quick off the mark you
are. Over the years you gather a large mental box of tricks and knowledge of
common gotchas and solutions which means you're generally more prepared for
most eventualities than someone who's only been in the game a few years.

Sadly you seem to be the type who thinks its just a job rather than a
profession. I can't see many people asking a surgeon in his 40s why he's still
working at the front line rather than sitting in an office playing with
powerpoint.

confronted with this at the age of 27 when I was offered my first
management job -- I was reluctant to take it, as I reckoned I was doing
better and earning more as a non-manager. But it was explained to me that
I'd be overtaken by my peer group if I refused the promotion (and drop in
salary), so I reluctantly accepted.

You can move to other companies you know.

I was happy in the company, and BTW, I was promoted from being a
software sales exec to sales manager, managing the sales people and
techies who had to support the customers. I made a lot more in
commission as a techie sales exec than as a techie sales manager, and
far more than anyone doing an actual techie job.

move into management. By my early 40s I was a director, enjoying commuting
by air-conditioned BMW 535i (my older colleagues preferred Jaguars), rather

Is a 535 your idea of having "made it"? Sad.

Yes, I was pretty pleased to have one built for me, to my exact spec,
in my 30s. It was a lot better than the Audi, Alfa, etc that I'd
previously chosen. And in those days, there were no tax penalties.

directors' car park by the age of 41. I wouldn't have wanted to still be a
techie, working for a younger manager, and competing with younger, sharper,
more recently qualified colleagues. I was much happier commissioning and
owning projects, rather than just doing what I was told.

Translation: I wasn't a very good techie so I jumped into the first career
lifeboat than drifted past because I knew I wouldn't get a job elsewhere.

Yeah , i know your type.

Yup, someone who wanted to have a career. How you must envy them.

I think Spud/Boltar is showing all the signs of hating having to work for
younger, better-paid managers (or customers) he doesn't respect. The

Someones age doesn't bother me. I'd far sooner work for a 25 year old
manager who's got a clue than some idiot in his 50s or 60s like you who
clearly doesn't.

Do you get to choose?

will probably soon overtake him. It must be very frustrating for him, and
It's hardly surprising that, as compensation, he feels the need to be so
obnoxious in an anonymous forum like this. He probably thinks the same of
his bosses, but can't say so.

Can't say no? Sorry, which bit of "self employed" are you having trouble
understanding or is that beyond the limit of your comprehension too?

So do you tell your clients what you really think of them?