Jonn Elledge wrote:
"Gary Jenkins" wrote in message
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" It will effectively bring the tube to London's busiest national
rail line

(Liverpool St - Shenfield), provide a new fast link from North Kent to
Docklands, the city and West End, provide a cheap fast route from

Heathrow,

and relieve congestion on the Central, Circle and District lines.



Crossrail may do all these things, but, wherever it crosses the river,
it will be of little ure to most people in South-East London. IMHO
Crossrail should take its place in the queue behind Thameslink 2000
which will allow more trains into Central London from all parts of SE
London including a future link with Crossrail at Farringdon.


I agree that South East London needs better transport, and that Crossrail
isn't it. (I think it's mildly ridiculous that it won't serve Woolwich, for
a start). But I definitely don't think it's TL2000 - if I was living in,
say, Eltham and could choose between two trains per hour to Charing Cross
and two more onto Thameslink, and four to Charing Cross, I'd choose the
latter.* The train services in South East London are appalling, and sending
a few of them to Luton isn't going to change that. What the area needs,
short of an extension of the Bakerloo line, is proper turn-up-and-go metro
services - something that TL2000 is going nowhere near providing.

Jonn

*Yes I've just plucked those figures out of the air.

How about that Jubilee Line extension from North Greenwich...


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Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London