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Old September 3rd 14, 12:20 AM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default As predicted, Boris Island sunk

"tim....." wrote:
"Recliner" wrote in message
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:22:49 +0100, Roland Perry
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at 02:36:55 on Tue, 2 Sep 2014, Recliner
remarked:
Having lived through the "Third airport" debacle, where unless I'm very
much mistaken the result was expanding the biggest existing shortlisted
airport (and rejecting otherwise preferred but more expensive builds), I
wouldn't be surprised to see Gatwick being chosen for the "next new runway".

By that logic, surely Heathrow would be chosen?

Lots of local opposition, and much more expensive.


True, but also much, much more demand for it. Apart from Gatwick
airport itself, not many people are demanding a second runway there.
Pretty much the entire business community and airline industry want
Heathrow to expand.


That's because they've all bought into the fiction that it will mean
there is space for daily flights to Ulan Bator (insert list of other out
of the way places that only 3 people a week want to travel to) thus
increasing the trade that we do with um, Mongolia.

Frankfurt already has direct flights to Ulaanbaatar. If there's enough
business to justify flights from London, why shouldn't they be offered? If
not, they obviously won't be. The point is that the market should decide,
without artificial restraints.


But IMHO the extra capacity wont be used this way. It'll be used to
increase the number of flights a day to NYC from 30 to 60 to no-ones
benefit except BA/AA/Etc

That's your fantasy, not what the market is telling us. If there was a
market for a lot more NYC flights, they would already be running from
Gatwick, Stansted, etc. If it's to no-one's benefit apart from the
airlines, who are these numerous mystery passengers who would pay through
the nose to fly from Heathrow, despite your claim that they'd be gaining no
benefit? The airlines only want to offer more flights because they see a
market for them. Why do you think you know better than them?

In reality, US flights from Stansted have been tried and repeatedly failed,
and airlines are reluctant to route them from Gatwick, apart from the
leisure flights to Orlando and Vegas. There probably is demand for more US
flights from LHR, but to secondary cities not already served, rather than
to NYC, which is already well-served. BA is doing well with its new Austin
flight and is looking to add more new destinations, not yet more flights on
already well-served routes.