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Recliner[_3_] · December 7th 14, 04:46 PM posted to uk.transport.london

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On 07.12.14 1:51, Recliner wrote:
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On 06.12.14 21:01, Recliner wrote:
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On 06.12.14 10:37, Robin wrote:
I've given up using the overground from highbury - its just a
totally inadequate service.

As it's my local line I find that a wee bit hyperbolic It is
undeniably overloaded much of the time but I rarely fail to get on and
I'm a FOG.

And did anyone predict the growth in traffic at the time of decisions
on the NLL and ELL? I certainly don't seem to recall anyone
forecasting eg 14 per cent growth in London's population in the
noughties, let alone the nature and location of that growth. And
while it is just my impression, that growth accounts for a sizeable
fraction of passengers at Highbury and Islington.

I wonder why they have not yet introduced five-car operation,
considering the passenger volumes, even though they have not finished
making such adjustments at all stations. Could they not lock out the
doors in the fifth car at stations were five-car operation is not yet
available, requiring passengers to move forward?

My guess is that doing this would kill dwell times, and that it is all
the doors are on the 378s are in one zone.

They have. The first five-car 378 was recently put into service, and
they'll all b extended in due course.

That's on ELL, which they built and rebuilt for five-car operation,
is it it not? What about NLL?

Why the big deal about 5-car trains on the ELL? They had 5-car CP stock
trains over 40 years ago.

But for many years it ran with 4-car trains (and LU cars are much shorter
than the 20m CapitalStar carriages, so a 5-car CP stock train is shorter
than a 4-car 378), so platforms were shortened, and new ones, such as at
Canada Water, weren't built long enough. But I think the biggest problem
for longer LO trains was on the NLL.

The 313s were tripods, were they not?

Yes, the 313s were three-car, as were the 378s when first introduced.