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Old July 5th 16, 05:29 PM
Robin9 Robin9 is offline
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Originally Posted by Mizter T View Post
On 04/07/2016 16:29, Robin9 wrote:

Martin Coffee;156680 Wrote:
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The problem is that there are so many divorce possibilities that no
leave person actually knew what they did vote for. It's a monumental
muddle created by the leave political people. The stay political people
are no better, they were just complacent.

In my view political people do not actually have a mandate to negotiate
any particular "settlement" with the rest of the EU as none was offered
for the electorate to vote on.. It's an absolute muddle.


It's not a muddle at all, except for those bad losers
who are scratching around for some way to discredit
the result and to smear those who voted to leave.

I voted to leave and I have long recognised that
large-scale immigration was bringing far more problems
than advantages for our country. Most of my friends and
acquaintances hold similar views, and none of us believed
that voting leave would mean a general expulsion of
immigrants from our country. Most of us will oppose any
such nonsense in the extremely unlikely event of it being
attempted. The suggestion that most "leave" voters were
sufficiently ignorant, idiotic and depraved to want such a
policy is just part of the smear campaign being conducted
by fair weather democrats who don't like losing.

I knew exactly what I was voting for. I knew that we were
voting on one issue only, and that the following day we would
still have our Parliamentary democracy and that the political
parties would develop different policies about how to quit the EU.
The fact that we "leave" voters did not yet have detailed policy
statements in no way invalidates the referendum. In any General
Election we are given scant information about how the parties
intend to indulge their preoccupations, but that does not mean
the election results are not valid.


Therefore going by the letter of the referendum, you didn't actually
vote to end free movement of people between the UK and the (rest of the)
EEA.

Of course migration that was one of the main points of the leave
campaigners, so that's going to change.

If you want to see a muddle, see Boris Johnson's muddle of a column the
Monday after the referendum, promising the land at the end of the
rainbow. He was one of the main figureheads for the official Vote Leave
campaign.
Of course I didn't vote directly for a huge reduction in
immigration from the EU. I voted for the means to reduce it,
amongst other things.

I have no interest in anything Boris Johnson writes or says
and I can well believe his column is confused and incoherent.
I'm glad we Londoners are rid of him and I believe Michael Gove
did the nation a great service.