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Old December 18th 17, 02:21 PM posted to uk.transport.london,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.railway
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Default London's Elizabeth Line's disjointed introduction

On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:45:42 +0000
Robin wrote:
On 18/12/2017 10:08, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 18:28:36 +0000
Charles Ellson wrote:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:04:59 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:
Also there's the plain fact that canary wharf station is a massive waste of
space. You don't need ceilings 60 foot high in a tube station, they could
have
put 3 or 4 floors in to use for other things that would be a benefit to the
area and bring in revenue for LU. As it is its just cathdral sized dead

space
that benefits no one other than the architects to say "Look what we did!".

It is easier and quicker to dig a big hole and build within in than to
construct a maze of tunnels as done in older Underground stations. In
the case of Canary Wharf, much of the hole was already there in the
form of the West India dock. The current construction doesn't appear
to necessarily prevent addition of further internal floors/levels if
wanted at some time in the future.


Can't see that happening, at least not easily. There's too much structural
clutter. Extra floors should have been designed in from the start. A wasted
opportunity IMO.


Is it known that such a design could have met requirements for smoke
dispersal and bomb blast resistance? It is after all a high profile


No idea, but couldn't be any worse than the skyscraper I worked in there.
The emergency stairs had a choke point on the 1st floor. An appalling design
and whoever approved it should've been sacked.

location. And there were sound reasons why ordnance - and firework! -
factories had strong walls and weak rooves.


I doubt you could get much stronger walls than a former dock!