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Graham Harrison[_4_] · August 31st 18, 08:45 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 08:39:34 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 20:44:02 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
John Levine wrote:
In article ,
Recliner wrote:
I suspect very shortly after crossrail opens at heathrow Hex will be
history.
Maybe even a matter of months.

I think it may survive as a faster, slightly more premium option, with
fares no more than £15. But no way will it survive with £27 buy-on-board
fares. There just won't be enough takers.

There's currently 4 tph on the HeX and 2 tph on the ex-Connect TfL.
Next year there'll be 6 tph on TfL, four to T4 and two to T5.

I think Crossrail is aiming for 8 tph to Heathrow eventually.

Along with the 12 tph on the Picc, that's 22 tph. Are there that many
people who want to take a train into London? I guess we'll see.

The 12 tph Piccadilly line trains are already packed, so there's certainly

Hobsons choice. I can guarantee that once crossrail is up and running and
tourists know about it the picc will become a ghost line. Few people apart
from local residents and maybe heathrow workers are going to use that hopeless
service to slog into london when they can do it in 1/4 the time for the same or
slightly more money (not sure of crossrail costs to heathrow).

How many Heathrow workers use HCon and the Picc? I think you'll find
there's enough of them that neither route will become a "ghost line".
Not only that but long before the Heathrow extension of the Picc the
loadings on the Hounslow branch with people traveling to the various
destinations (not just central London) didn't qualify as a ghost line.