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Recliner[_4_] · December 10th 19, 12:51 PM posted to uk.transport.london

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 12:32:37 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 21:30:42 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 09 Dec 2019 12:27:01 +0000
Recliner wrote:
On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 12:11:10 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:17:23 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 13:12:37 +0000
Recliner wrote:
On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 13:01:42 +0100, Jarle Hammen Knudsen
wrote:

On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 16:04:09 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

Seems like the Overground 378s are having a refresh. New seat
moquettes
and
a
slightly different external paint/vinyl job. Looks quite nice.

How old are they?

There were several orders, so the ages vary. The oldest carriages have
been in service just over 10 years, the youngest only four.

A rare example of a decent train - looks nice inside and out, comfortable

and

with decent acceleration (when the drivers can be bothered). Naturally
this

situration couldn't last so we now have the fugly, expensive and late
710s.

Why do you think that Aventras are expensive?

Lost revenue for TfL on the Goblin, having to pay to keep the diesels a
bit longer and modify some 378s to run on it. I know Bombardier coughed up

some cash but I bet it doesn't cover everything.

So, you have no idea of what the trains cost?

I was talking overall cost, but I can google the price per unit if that will
make you happy.

Has it occurred to you that the late delivery of the 710s probably saved
TfL money? Think about it.

The Goblin electrification was finished before they showed up so if you're
thinking that not having them delivered on time didn't matter and getting
a refund from Bombadier was a nice bonus I'm not convinced especially given
they weren't just being built for the Goblin.

Think harder...