On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 23:12:53 GMT, Ningi
wrote in message
:

You're making the assumption that the cars behind the one that stopped
would all have preferred to run the red light. I don't think this is
supportable.

No, he's making the assumption that a proportion of those using both
types of vehicle are prepared to run the light, but that the first car
to stop prevents any further car drivers from doing so, whereas the
first cyclist to stop places no such constraint on other cyclists. It
is a fair point.

I have been stationary at a traffic light (on my bike) and had a BMW
drive round me and through the red light.

It is also worth pointing out that motorists only seem law-abiding by
comparison if you exclude the types of offences they are most likely
to commit. For some reason those motorists who attack cyclists for
running red lights often become very defensive if the word "speeding"
is mentioned :-)

Guy
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