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Old November 24th 04, 10:59 AM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway,uk.transport
Dave Liney Dave Liney is offline
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Default Eurostar to quit Waterloo

"Paul Terry" wrote in message
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In message , Dave Liney
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"are those cohorts of people in other parts of the capital likely to
require
business trips or desire leisure breaks in Eurostar destinations?"


Yes, that is the question I asked. You didn't answer it, though.


To put it more clearly for you: There are business people who work and live
north of the Thames. I expect they also have to go to Paris on business and
no doubt they would also like to go for leisure breaks there as well.

I don't think it is an assumption to read what you wrote as meaning


Sheesh! There you go again! PLEASE stop assuming what I think.


I'm not. I'm interpreting what you've written -- in the same way that
everyone has to interpret what anyone has written. You posed the question
about people outside the SWT corridor requiring Eurostar in such a way as to
make it obvious that you don't think there are significant numbers of them.
Perhaps you could clarify your statements if you don't mean this.

"They have one [a good, cheap public transport solution to getting to
Paris]
already - it is called Waterloo".

You said it. Hardly an assumption.


Oh gawd, and you can't spot irony either. I am pointing out the fallacy in
your argument that the St Pancras - Waterloo change is so quick and easy.


Only if you take as truth that most of the people getting on Eurostar trains
are from SWT destinations and that is because people can't cope with the
"struggle" of 1.9 miles/20-30 minutes from St Pancras. I don't.

when there isn't a business
case for two terminals then one will have to close. Closing StP isn't an
option (it would make the CTRL phase 2 rather pointless) so Waterloo has
to.


Only if you believe that Eurostar have done their sums properly ... or, if
cynical, that Eurostar will use the threat of closure of Waterloo to get
money out of the government. Personally, I find it very difficult to
believe there is a good business case.


Considering that they won't survive if they haven't done their sums properly
I'd expect them to have taken the job seriously. Perhaps you don't know all
the facts?

Incidentally, you are only considering travel FROM London. I wonder how
many of the foreign tourists who come TO London for a short break, and who
can currently walk to many attractions from Waterloo, will bother to come
here when they find they are deposited amid the delights of King's Cross?


I'd expect them to do the same as they do at Heathrow which is head for the
tube/train to where they want to go. It's not as if they go out and about in
the delights of Hounslow.

Dave