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Old February 9th 05, 01:21 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default New victoria line trains


Neil Williams wrote:
I suspect that the seating arrangement will be similar to the

Northern
and Piccadilly line trains, both of which I recall are provided with
tip-ups in places.


From the computer sim images they showed it looked like there'd be a

lot
more flip ups than on the northern (theres none on the picc).

The reduction will be by way of the removal of the transverse seats,
which has already happened on other deep-level lines because they
aren't wide enough for two average people, and don't have enough
legroom for anything other than midgets to sit opposite one another.


True , they are narrow , but small people and kids can sit happily on
them and larger people choose to stand. With less seats they both get
to stand. They also replaced the transverse seats on the C stock and
replaced them with longitudinal seats which seemed to be a child sized
profile which no one can sit comfortably in.


The longitudinal layout has proven itself on other lines - I doubt
that cost has a lot to do with it. The availability of a place to

put
luggage or a wheelchair without blocking the vestibules (where the
train isn't crush loaded of course) seems a sensible idea, and again
is helpful in the Northern and Picc trains.


A lot of people with luggage if they're getting on a crowded train
don't bother squeezing all the way through to put their luggage in
the correct place , they just dump it where they stand. And despite
what the political correctness Taliban would have us believe , sod all
wheelchair users ever use the tube. Certainly I don't ever remember
seeing more than 2 of them in 10 years of commuting on the system.

B2003