"James Christie" wrote in message
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In message net.com,
Roger T. may have written...


They are a product and reflection of our society and of their parents.
They're not going to to be the offspring of wealthy, attentive parents,
I
wager, but the offspring of the those parents who couldn't give a damn
(and have probably never talked to them nicely in their life). We need
more information before we can draw any conclusions about how to deal
with
it... but actually catching the culprits would be a good start!

It's societies fault. It's their parent's fault. It's the environment's
fault. It's the school system's fault. It's everybody's and everything's
bloody fault but it's not their fault.

With attitudes like that, no wonder many kids are like they are.

Funny, when we used to beat the crap outta kids who did this sort of
thing,
kids didn't do this sort of thing.

I've a feeling that there's a correlation in there somewhere.


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Cheers
Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway
http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/


I should think so Roger. When I was a lad (now theres a cliche!), I would
never contemplate breaking windows, vandalism by way of graffiti, or
mugging/attacking OAPs. As not only was I aware from a young that such a
thing was inherently wrong, but I also knew that if I did, not only would
I get a hiding from my father but I'd probably get one from the person
I'd committed said act against!
I mean, do all the people who make todays policy think that it was a total
coincidence that when we had things like corporal punishment in schools,
or getting 30 days in jail for stealing a bag of coal from the Pit, that
these "barbaric" practices had nothing to do with the virtual absence of
graffiti/vandilism etc?
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To be fair, I was never really beaten as a kid, and I've never done any of
those things (my list of crimes so far has been: doing 85 on a motorway -
though not looking at the speedo; buying child rate tickets while I still
had a school uniform (up to 18); sticking a reduced label off a rotten box
of fruit onto a decent box.
I therefore dispute the assertion that the only way to teach kids not to do
these thing is through beating.

Aaron