I honestly feel the maze of lines in South London needs unravelling and
a simplified service pattern introduced. Even as someone who works in
the industry I often get confused with the direction and routing of trains!

This isn't too far off the thread, but the main problem in the South
Central area is that services seem to close down evenings and Sundays,
such that while the off peak pattern shown in the diagrams may apply on
your way out, you can't always get home again. This is very
discouraging for leisure use of railways.

On South Eastern, most of the connections run all days and hours,
except those that stray across South Central, ie the Lewisham to
Victoria connection.