"Phil Richards" wrote in message
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John Rowland wrote:

There is no need to make the whole of London prepaid only, just the
well-used stops. There would be no confusion for passengers, because the
bus
stops that had machines would be prepaid-only, and those that didn't
wouldn't.

But surely isn't the plan to make all buses cash free? In which case I'm
sure there will be stops without machines plus of course lengthy sections
of hail & ride services. In those cases I can see that passengers will
have
to have a valid ticket, pass or prepay in hand before boarding.

I realise that the legal systems might be different however
I think the principle of avoiding payment is the same, but
Hannover lost a legal case doing just this.

They tried to prosecute some people for riding without
a ticket from a stop with no machine They lost on the
basis that as the pax hadn't been given the opportunity
to buy a ticket so it was unreasonable to expect then to
have done so.

And this is in a town where it is possible to buy advanced
undated single tickets for all rides which isn't currently an
option in London.

tim