On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:15:53 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
wrote:


"Nick Cooper" wrote in
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 18:40:26 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
wrote:


This is exactly right. I did not say they had to use 10 days
leave, but that they had a period of 2 weeks when the did
not go to work.

Even the maximum of 10 is not "2 weeks." Most years it's only 8 days -
i.e. one week and one day - as it is this year.

I accept that you live in a world where people have to work
over the Xmas period. But I work in a world where the company
shuts down for the whole period, sometimes for a full two weeks.
This has happend at every company that I have worked at
in the last 25 years (I freelance and average about one
company per year).

I'm not doubting that. I'm doubting you using that as the basis to
claim that's what happens to "most people," i.e. the majority of the
population.

However, hardly anyone I know gets that.
FWIW It's bloody annoying and I hate having to waste
my holiday days in this way, so I don't see it as getting
a benefit.

It is my contention that more people work in my world than
in yours.

Clearly your world doesn't include the public, retail or service
sectors. Add to that a sizable chunk of other industries, and you'd
be hard-pressed to claim a majority.

No-one is sensibly going to buy a monthly season on the 4th
of December as they will not be using it from 25th to the 1st

You mean "... _if_ they will not be using it from 25th to the 1st."

Well obviously. If you're nitpicking about this what else
have you nitpicked about?

It's not nitpicking to point out a huge and fundamental flaw in your
"argument."

(and in many cases longer).

You keep claiming this; I - and a number of other posters, it seems -
dispute it.

And most people take 2 (or more) weeks holiday in the
summer/easter when the kids are off school.

It may have escaped your notice, but there are more households in the
country _without_ children than those with.

They still take holidays in 'chunks'.

Think again. "Most people" do not have school-age children, so why
would they be taking their holidays "when the kids are off school."

I said in chunks, i.e a week or two at a time.
I accept that I made a mistake saying that everyone goes in the school
holiday (I forgot that the demographgic of newsgroups is younger
than the population!), but most peopel are still going to take a period
holiday to go somewhere or other.

You're claiming a majority where no such majority actually exists in
the population.

I still think it is.

12 million package holidays per year are sold so almost 25% of the
population go away on an *organised* holiday each yer

None of which backs up your orginal proposition, i.e. that "most
people take 2 weeks holiday in the summer/easter when the kids are off
school." In fact, it does the opposite. More 40% of the UK adult
population does not take a holiday of four days or more at all. In
that context you'd be hard-pressed to claim that the remaining 60%
all take two-week holidays. The majority you claim does not exist.
Fact.

Most do IME.

Well, in mine, most _don't_.

Purely subjective. My subjective view is that the vast majority of
people I know take one or two separate weeks off,

Isn't this what I have been saying?

No, you claimed the majority of people are taking two-week holidays.
Not my use of the word "separate."
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Nick Cooper

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