On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 14:34:17 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
wrote:


"Nick Cooper" wrote in
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On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:15:53 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)"
wrote:


However, hardly anyone I know gets that.
FWIW It's bloody annoying and I hate having to waste
my holiday days in this way, so I don't see it as getting
a benefit.

It is my contention that more people work in my world than
in yours.

Clearly your world doesn't include the public, retail or service
sectors. Add to that a sizable chunk of other industries, and you'd
be hard-pressed to claim a majority.

I have worked in reatil, and ever there people booked their
two week summer holiday as the norm.

Try to keep track. This is the bit of the thread disputing your "two
weeks over Christmas" claim.

No-one is sensibly going to buy a monthly season on the 4th
of December as they will not be using it from 25th to the 1st

You mean "... _if_ they will not be using it from 25th to the 1st."

Well obviously. If you're nitpicking about this what else
have you nitpicked about?

It's not nitpicking to point out a huge and fundamental flaw in your
"argument."

It was not a flaw in my arguement, just something so blindingly
obviously a part of the arguement that I didn't bother to type it
in at the end.

Yeah. Right.

12 million package holidays per year are sold so almost 25% of the
population go away on an *organised* holiday each yer

None of which backs up your orginal proposition, i.e. that "most
people take 2 weeks holiday in the summer/easter when the kids are off
school."

I have conceded the point about off school holidays,

a two week summer holiday is anywhere betweem May and
September

In fact, it does the opposite. More 40% of the UK adult
population does not take a holiday of four days or more at all.

Where did you find this fact? I have never worked at a place
where anybody never took full weeks off.

The Office of National Statistics:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBAS....asp?vlnk=3713

"A key way of spending leisure time is to have a break from everyday
life and take a holiday, whether it be within the United Kingdom or
abroad. Although the proportion of British residents who did not take
a holiday of four days or more has remained relatively unchanged over
the past three decades (41 per cent in 1998), the proportion taking
two or more holidays has increased from 15 per cent in 1971 to 25 per
cent in 1998."

In
that context you'd be hard-pressed to claim that the remaining 60%
all take two-week holidays.

Obviously,


Purely subjective. My subjective view is that the vast majority of
people I know take one or two separate weeks off,

Isn't this what I have been saying?

No, you claimed the majority of people are taking two-week holidays.
Not my use of the word "separate."

Obviously that should have said "Note my use..."

No, I said the they were taking 2 weeks of holiday when they
did not need to buy a pass.

You've shifted the goalposts so many times, I'm not sure that you
actually know what you've said, but I'll remind you:

IME most people have 2 weeks off at Xmas because their
employer gives them no choice.

And most people take 2 (or more) weeks holiday in the
summer/easter when the kids are off school.

[Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:02:39 +0200]

Your starting point was claiming that "most people" take two-week
holidays at the times you claimed, which is clearly not the case for
the majority of the population.
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Nick Cooper

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