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Old October 14th 05, 09:43 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Richard J. Richard J. is offline
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Default Northern line trip failures = lots of SPADs

Boltar wrote:
Boltar...you been on holiday or, perish the thought, everything
been going as you liked for a while. I've missed your abrasive
people hating comments recently, welcome back.


Idiot admins at work now block all news forums.


Good for them. You complain about the lack of professionalism of LU
drivers, yet expect to swan around at work accessing newsgroups.

Why hasn't it been picked up before? Probably because thetrip cock
test that has to be done by every train leaving a depot or
terminus, so, many


Perhaps I'm the only person to whom it seems strange that its
taken 8 years to notice this problem. Unless the equipment
in question has been modified recently and a bad job was
done.


LU have said that "maintenance of the Northern line train fleet was not
being done to the correct standards", so perhaps it's not just a design
issue.

Thats where line knowledge comes in. If it wasn't for the
profesionalism of the drivers, or operators, trains would SPAD all
the time. And we would have


Ah , I needed a good laugh tonight. Real professionals don't
walk out at the drop of a hat.


Hardly at the drop of a hat. This has been going on for weeks. Drivers
on NR have AWS and TPWS and in some cases ATP. LU drivers (except
Victoria and Central Lines with ATO) have just trainstops, and if that
doesn't work, there is no secondary protection system. I know you think
that red signals alone should be sufficient, but experience worldwide
indiactes that your view is foolishly complacent.

I'm not normally on the side of RMT and ASLEF, and one might argue that
double manning would have been sufficient, but I have some sympathy with
their view that temporary workarounds should not continue indefinitely.
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Richard J.
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