On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 10:34:06 +0000 (UTC), "Brimstone"
wrote:

David Bradley wrote:
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:09:27 +0000 (UTC), "Brimstone"
wrote:

David Bradley wrote:
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 00:58:36 -0000, "Marratxi"
wrote:


"R.C. Payne" wrote in message
...

HUGE SNIP

Indeed, memory suggests that in parts of the US (Philadelphia
spring to mind) they are sometimes called "trackless trolleys"
where "trolley" is a common synonym for "streetcar" or "tram" (for
those of us brought up that side of the atlantic in the last 40
years, we all remember Mr. Rogers' Trolley).
Robin

When, as a kid in the 1940s and 50s, I visited my grandmothers in
Bradford the trolleybuses were always referred to as tracklesses.
Baz


This thread has prompted me to produce a web site on the 'issues'.
Please have a look at www.tfwl.co.uk

I note you still haven't told us which "unique shopping outlets and
generally architecturally interesting and sound buildings" are
kikely to be demolished.


I have now by putting up a page at http://www.tfwl.org.uk/lido1.html

So why put your response in a place where no one can react? You site doesn't
even include photos of the building you claim will be affected to allow
people to make their own judgement.

Building of architectural interest are eligible for listing by English
Heritage. Are any of the buildings you claim will be demolished so listed?
If not will you be making a listing application?


You must be looking at a different page to the URL given above. Pictures of
the retail outlets affected *ARE* on this page and the row of icons at the
bottom of the page includes a link to provide any feedback.

The text on the page mentions that none of these buildings are 'listed',
although it is felt that there is merit in retaining some of these heritage
buildings. Lots of other people may also believe this to be the case, so why
does it have to be me to make a listed application? I could spend my lifetime
dealing with such applications and then miss a few through such a crusade.

As for the web page I don't know what more I really can do to satisfy your
obsession of criticism you have on our beliefs that it is totally wrong to
destroy a vibrant collection of retail outlets that serves the local community
well, just for the sake of pushing a tramway through the neighbourhood. It is
not proven to me that the same benefits that a tramway provides can not be
equally, and less destructively, be provided by a trolleybus scheme.

I have, however, given you one concession by adding text that gives
information on how you can provide your feedback.

David Bradley