On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:29:12 -0000, "Martin Underwood"
wrote:

Adrian wrote in
. 170:

Repeater signs.
From the bottom of the speed limit table in HC103 - "The 30 mph limit
applies to all traffic on all roads in England and Wales (only Class
C and unclassified roads in Scotland) with street lighting unless
signs show otherwise)"

Basically, all speed limits except the default must have repeaters
every so often. If they aren't there, then the default applies,
regardless of the last "big" sign. That's 30 if there's streetlights,
NSL (60 S/C, 70 D/C) if there aren't. Motorways are default 70,
streetlights or not.

The difficulty is the definition of the term "street lighting": it means
that the lights are closer together than some cut-off distance (can't be
arsed to check the distance: my HC is in the car). As you are driving past
them, try judging whether the lights are closer than this distance (and so
the limit is 30 mph) or whether they are just further apart than this
distance (and hence the limit is 60). On a major road with more than one
lane you can easily think that 60/70 would be appropriate (or at least that
it's safe to drive at 40 or 50), even though there are houses some distance
away from the road, separated by service roads on either side.

I thought that the street lights had to be closer together than 200
yards for it to be a de jure 30 limit. No street lights and you need
repeater 30 signs. No speed limit, or one above 30 and you need
repeater signs on the lamp posts.

Our County Council wouldn't move the 30 limit markers on one road, but
instead put a 40 limit to the end of the street lights, complete with
repeaters. The Parish Council have just improved our lane's street
lights, and extended them past the 30 limit, but haven't wired the
extra ones up yet. I'm waiting to see if they move the signs this
time.
--
Terry Harper
Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org