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Old January 14th 06, 09:52 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london,uk.legal
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Roger wrote:
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"Steve" wrote in message
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But, why would you want to object if you have nothing to hide?


If you think that gimmicks and a waste of money like that is going to make
you safer, then you need to be fleeced of even more money, to pay the
clever
people fleecing you.



These scanners are a complete waste of time and money!
What are they trying to achieve?
Prevent bombers getting to the airport? Ah ... No - lots of other ways of
getting there.

Prevent bombers getting on planes Ah ... No - see above plus airport
security measures.

Prevent a train from being blown up? Ah .... No - see assorted movies
displaying the talents of the French resistance in WW2 blowing up &
derailing trains; or read a good book on the subject. Doing it this way also
allows the bomber to live and perform the task again.

Show the population we take terrorism seriously and will try everything the
press think of to prove it? Ah .... Yes! Governments of all persuasions are
good at this sort of thing! It diverts attention from the real business of
anti-terrorism which is intelligence gathering and analysis; acting on the
results, possibly in ways the Government of the day wouldn't want us to know
about.

Roger C
PS Identity cards won't help in the war against terrorism either. Your good
terrorist will either forge a good one or ignore them. The really clever
terrorists at the top of the tree will be the first to get an ID card of
course. They will behave impeccably on the surface whilst co-ordinating the
efforts of the cannon fodder below them.



Oh, for Heaven's Sake - does *anyone* really think ID cards are anything
to do with anti-terrorism? The real motives are much more basic - better
state control and monitoring of the *legitimate* population.

As you say, anti-terrorism physical defences don't stop terrorism. But,
boy, they do deflect it to different targets. ISTR, when military bases
increased security, the bombs were planted in the married quarters area
outside the fence.

So, we have Parliament ringed with concrete blocks and Tony telling us
to continue life as normal - as he travels in an armoured limo with
police escort whilst his family live in the Downing Street Fortress. No
one really thought that all those measures were actually to reduce the
chances of the rest of us being targets? Quite the opposite - without
those measures the bombers might have had a go at Tony and Cronies
instead of the unprotected tubes and buses.. If mad-ducks disease breaks
out - no one thinks that movement restrictions will be ruthlessly
applied to Tony & Co, do they? Or that they won't be first inline for
whatever jabs there are?


Go to any tinpot little dicatorship and the pattern is the same. You
can't even wave a pointed stick within a mile of the Presidential Palace
- but blow up who you fancy in the market place.

How did it come to this? ISTR at the height of one particular high
terrorist alert, a certain PM made a point of walking to work.. It seems
an eternity ago, now.

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Sue