London Banter - View Single Post - Anti-bike signs on Bendibuses

Colin Rosenstiel · March 26th 06, 12:11 PM posted to uk.transport.london

In article . 170,
(Adrian) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

However, any vehicle that can't see if it safe to turn left
without injuring someone on its nearside should be banned from
the roads. If it was a railway vehicle it would be as unsafe.
Two Cambridge cyclists have been killed in the last year because
of such unsafe vehicles.

It's quite straightforward. The vehicle isn't to blame. One of the
road users is.

If the bus started to overtake the cyclist then turned left, the
bus driver is to blame.
If the cyclists started to undertake the bus about to turn left,
the cyclists are to blame.

And if the design of the vehicle makes it impossible for the driver
to see which vehicles it is about to collide with the designers of
the vehicle are to blame and all similar vehicles should be banned
from the road until the defect is fixed, as would be the case with
railway vehicles.

If you stuck your head in the blades of a combine harvester, would
that make it an inherently unsafe design of vehicle?

Irrelevant. Any road vehicle has not inherently to be a danger to other
road vehicles that have every right to be there too.

Stop trying to pass the buck.
The cyclists died because of their stupid manouvre.

You don't know that.

I'm sure the mirrors on the bus do allow for the driver to see all
the way down the nearside, and, yes, the driver should very probably
have paid more attention to them - But the fact remains that the
cyclist carries the majority of the fault for being there.

The point with the lorries was that the drivers claimed they couldn't
see the cyclists.

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Colin Rosenstiel