TBirdFrank wrote:
It provides, sadly, the best reason for having your own private
transport if you are out late at night, or arranging to travel in a
group.

Having a post-pubs train service is a good thing. You obviously have
to expect a different atmosphere on a train full of people who have
mostly had a drink to that on a morning commuter train, but by and
large it's trouble-free, if, at times, raucous.

Incidents where it gets really threatening are, fortunately, pretty
rare. As for being in a group, it would be no bad thing if people were
a bit less insular - it would provide a lot of deterrance to the odd
troublemaker if they knew that the rest of the passengers would back
each other up.


As a bloke I never worried about travelling, late or exceedingly early
hours when younger, but as a dad, if my daughter's college activities
require her to be on campus late I would rather she gets a B & B up
there rather than taking a Preston M/cr - Manchester Hadfield late at
night.

I'm surprised that your daughter makes such a journey. I've always
thought that living away from home was an important part of higher
education. It's what makes it more than just 'more school'.


And they call this progress ........... sheeesh!