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John Rowland wrote:
Earl Purple wrote:

2. Bus-lane and Box Junction. My guess is that this is the A1080
Boreham Road / Westbury Road / The Roundway junction (and also B155
Downhills Road).

Google Maps suggests that the only box junction in Lordship Lane is at
Redvers Road, although Windows Live Local shows another at Boreham Road.
Curiously the one at Boreham Road occupies the the whole junction,
although
only the southern half serves any purpose (apart from revenue gathering).

I did forget about the one with Redvers Road. I recall that is also
exit only (onto Lordship Lane) and there is a bus garage there and I
think a car park too. Of course it is close to the traffic light so
Westbound traffic might get caught out if they start across into an
empty space and someone from the Redvers Road jumps out in front of
them (either turning left into the space or blocking the way to turn
right).

The problem with box junctions is that you cannot wait until the exit
is clear, you go when you think there will be an exit, i.e. traffic
will not naturally cross the box junction one at a time. Now if the
person in front goes just past the junction and stops (even if there is
space in front of them) whose fault is it?

If one's exit is not clear (as in the example above), one is at fault for
entering the box junction. That's the whole idea of them. When there is
obviously stopped traffic ahead, drivers *should* drive over one car at a
time. Drivers should only enter when they can see enough space past the
junction for them to fit in to. Anything else should result in a ticket