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Old October 30th 06, 08:51 PM posted to uk.transport.london
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Default Oyster incomplete journeys - further info


Olof Lagerkvist wrote:
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*If* a Travelcard holder starts a journey and validates their card at a
station outside of their zonal validity then there will be a deduction
from their PAYG purse of £1 (starting at an origin in Z2-6D) or £1.50
(starting at an origin in Zone 1). At final exit the gate or validator
will determine if any more money needs to be deducted from PAYG for the
extension journey.



I know I asked this before but there was confusion about the answer. I
still don't understand what happens if you have a Travelcard (on
Oyster), touch in within your zones of validity but are unable to touch
out at the destination.


It does not matter at all wether you touch out or not in case you have
touched in within the zones for which the travelcard on the Oyster card
is valid.

Specifically, I am referring to the large number of people (myself
inc.) who have to touch in at Ealing Broadway (Z3), take the overground
to Paddington but cannot touch out there. How would the system know
that I didn't take the tube outside my zones of validity and failed to
touch out at the arrival station (and should therefore have a fare
deducted from my PAYG)?


It does not know that. It is exactly the same situation as for a paper
Travelcard, you can use it to get through fare gates within the zones
for which it is valid but in case you travel outside the zones covered
by the card it is your responsibility to have an extension ticket (in
the paper travelcard case) or touch out your Oyster card at your
desitination, even if there are no gates or gates are open there.



The extension ticket in the paper travelcard case is £4, generally
more than PAYG for the whole journey. So, in fact, you have to get out
of the train, go to the exit, touch in, go back and wait for another
train.