Boltar wrote:

On Feb 16, 12:33 pm, "Mizter T" wrote:
However I disagree with your comments that the East London Line will
suffer from it's future fate of conversion into an NR line - the ELL
extension will unleash the potential of the cross-river line. That
said, I'd be wary if the new operation was to be run by an outfit such
as Connex - but the ELLX trains will be run under the auspices of TfL
as part of their "London Overground" network, which makes me feel much
more confident that things will be done properly.

Obviously this is all supposition on my part and hopefully I'll be
proved wrong , but although I think the northern extension will not be
an issue as far as the services go (though it really needs to go to
finsbury park to be of real use) the southern bit is basically just
running trains on the already overcrowded south london lines. So any
disruption on those lines will delay the ELL trains and so affect the
central and north bit of the ELL which IMO is not acceptable. If its
to retain its similarity to a tube line then it should be self
contained or at the least share very few stretches of track with other
services otherwise the timetable will just become an interesting
curiosity rather than something of any real use and passengers will
treat it as just yet another unreliable NR service where they may
spend 30 mins on some dingy platform waiting for a train that may or
may not turn up.



I think "service pollution" is the term for that. I agree that the
extensions at both ends (remember some of the ELLX trains will
continue onto the North London Line to Highbury & Islington) will
introduce the potential for disruption - I'm sure there will be
occasional issues but I wonder if it'll be as big a problem as you
suggest or will happen that often. Of course we shall see how it all
works out when the ELLX opens!

Re your comments about the need to continue to Finsbury Park - as I
said earlier some of the ELLX services will continue to Highbury &
Islington which will provide a interchange with both the Victoria Line
and FCC's Great Northern line. The North London line around Canonbury
is either three or four track, and trains continuing up to Finsbury
Park via the Canonbury Curve would mean they'd have to cross all the
tracks on the level, blocking them all up - operationally going to
High & I and reversing somewhere beyond there appears to be
preferable. Plus there is the possibility that such trains will go
beyond High & I in the future - perhaps up to Willesden Junction via
Primrose Hill.

As ever, more info is on alwaystouchout:
http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/3