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Old February 19th 07, 05:22 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Tom Anderson Tom Anderson is offline
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, David of Broadway wrote:

James Farrar wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:59:02 -0500, David of Broadway
wrote:

Then again, London's bus maps aren't designed to make it easy to trace a
route, which is the style I'm used to:
http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/manbus.pdf

I'm not sure if that style is genuinely easier to read or if I just find
it easier to read because I'm accustomed to it. Has it ever been
attempted for London?


The closest we have are the quadrant maps:

http://cache.tfl.gov.uk/buses/pdfdocs/centlond.pdf
http://cache.tfl.gov.uk/buses/pdfdocs/n_east.pdf
etc

Which are, er, not very close. And there is the central London tourist bus
map:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/pdfdocs/cen_bus.pdf

Which is very limited in scope, and only shows a subset of the routes in
the area it covers anyway.

I'm not convinced it would work; London is a somewhat less organised
city than NYC (especially north of 14th Street)!


You want disorganized? Maybe I should have linked to Brooklyn instead of
Manhattan:
http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/busbkln.pdf


My dear fellow, you really should look at a map of London some time. Even
Brooklyn is a paragon of geometrical order compared to this place.

It seems like there's a basic difference in how bus routes are planned
in the two cities. In New York, they're largely planned to run along a
series of streets, and in the process they happen to run past a series
of origins and destinations. In London, it appears as though they're
largely planned to run past a series of origins and destinations, and in
the process they happen to run along a series of streets. I'm sure
there are numerous exceptions in both cities, but the basic approach may
set the tone for the style of map.


Possibly. There are also a lot more areas of parallel streets in New York,
even in the outer boroughs, than in London.

Also, your Manhattan map shows a measly 42 routes; a quick,
semi-automatic, examination of the list on londonbusroutes.net indicates
that we have 612 bus routes in London, not including night routes but
including school relief and non-TfL routes. Not all of those go through
zone 1/2, which i'd say is our equivalent of Manhattan, but i would
imagine more than 42 do.

tom

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