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Old February 22nd 07, 08:38 AM posted to uk.railway,uk.rec.subterranea,uk.transport.london
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Default Secret Tube Trains under London?

On 22 Feb, 03:19, "Westbourne" wrote:
On 22 Feb, 02:00, "Mizter T" wrote:



Brian Watson wrote:
A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.


Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?


--
Brian


I heard a bit of this whilst out for a jog this afternoon - if anyone
wants to listen again for the next week they can do so by following
this link:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/netwo...l?london/rober...


I've heard plenty of good stuff about London on Robert Elms' show when
I've tuned in, but the stories about secret Underground railways that
featured on this particular show was not good stuff, it was all a load
of cobblers!


There are undoubtedly some quasi-secret tunnels and installations in
London - for example the "Q-Whitehall" facility and "PINDAR" [1] - and
there are quite possibly a number of others - but there's no secret
Underground railway lines!


More about the aforementioned underground installations on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_citadels_under_London


If you want to read about a Metro system that quite possibly does have
a secret line, as well as a supposed dual-purpose so it serves as a
link between military facilities, take a look at this unofficial site
about the Pyongyang Metro:
http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/index.html


That pyongyang link is interesting, thanks.

As for all the conspiracy nutters, this was all being bandied about on
the other forum. I still believe in the box tunnel though. Most
interesting thread.



The Box Tunnel at Corsham is definitely for real - the academic and
author Peter Hennessy made an authorised site visit to Corsham with a
few of his students and this is recalled, with photos, in his book
"The Secret State". Intriguingly they were only allowed in some (now
disused) areas of the Corsham complex, so the possibility remains that
other parts are still in government/military use. Hennessy was also
allowed down into PINDAR, the communications/command centre under the
MoD.

Part of the problem with all such talk of secret underground
installations is that many different facts, stories and rumours get
conflated together, and the end result can be something of a fantasy.

The people at the Subterranea Britannica society have a splendid
website which is well researched and draws on fact rather than
fiction:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/